Episode 15 – ESFP’s, a.k.a. #hownottospelljihae

Our awesome friend, Jihae, joins us to discuss what it’s like being an ESFP, as well as her love of all things beautiful – including fashion!

Also in this episode…

  • WE ASK YOU: Are you generally an optimist or pessimist? Do you think this is part of your nature, or part of your nurture?
  • A discussion of Northanger Abbey by Jane Austen
  • Jihae shares with us why she loves this amazing TED Talk – Bill Strickland explains the benefits of aesthetics in building community.


Elisa’s Winks & Drinks

Black Coffee2

Black Coffee Air Roasters The coffee is great, and this L.A.-based company is committed to providing jobs to inner-city Angelenos. You can order easily online.

Nordstrom Rack

Nordstrom Rack – My very favorite place (in-store and online) for inexpensive finds that make me feel stylish.

Jihae’s Winks & Drinks

Amazon – As if this needs any introduction… but one of Jihae’s recommended uses is shopping for apparel! She offers us some awesome tips for getting what you want at a really great price.

Dutch Bros Iced Tea –  Jihae was blessed, privileged really, to try a Dutch Bros iced tea. Please. Just take our word for it and go get one. You won’t regret it!!

Jenn’s Winks & Drinks


Trader Joe’s Mini Chocolate Bars – Smooth and sweet and wonderful. If you wanna get wild, dip them in a jar of peanut butter. You’re welcome. (The link is for our beloved Amazon, where you can buy 3 packs online if you don’t happen to live near a Trader Joe’s!)


Apple Cider Vinegar – Among the many benefits of ACV is heartburn relief. If you’re not already drinking some everyday, check out this blog post!

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  1. Jamae Nelson

    February 15th, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    I’m an INTP and I would say that I am generally optimistic. I don’t believe that it’s function of nurture, but rather a result of personality. Being optimistic doesn’t mean that I always ‘look on the bright side of life’, but that in general I expect things to turn out well, like they should. I’m a believer and know that God holds our lives in His control, He’s good, so for those of us who are believers everything works our for our good at the end of the day.

  2. elisa

    February 16th, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    Hi Jamae! That cracks me up — things will turn out well, “like they should.” Haha, I love that. And YES, faith ought to play a huge role in this question! Then optimism is no longer a matter of wishful thinking but rather hope.

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Hi, I'm Elisa. I am a wife and mother and former foster mama and writer and sometime-speaker and friend and daughter and small business co-owner and lover of stories and baker of cookies.

I’m Jenn. I’m married to an awesome guy, and we have four really cute kids. I’ve been called an anglophile. I love books, movies, the piano, and popcorn. And wine. And coffee.


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